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Diminished Triad vs Diminished 7

The C diminished triad and the C diminished 7 share 3 notes — C, Eb, Gb. From there, the C diminished 7 adds Bbb.

C3C4C5CRBbbbb7CRBbbbb7CREbb3Gbb5Ebb3Gbb5

Piano, C3 to C5. Notes in this scale, low to high: C3 (root of C Diminished Triad and root of C Diminished 7), Eb3 (flat 3 of C Diminished Triad and flat 3 of C Diminished 7), Gb3 (flat 5 of C Diminished Triad and flat 5 of C Diminished 7), Bbb3 (double flat 7), C4 (root of C Diminished Triad and root of C Diminished 7), Eb4 (flat 3 of C Diminished Triad and flat 3 of C Diminished 7), Gb4 (flat 5 of C Diminished Triad and flat 5 of C Diminished 7), Bbb4 (double flat 7), C5 (root of C Diminished Triad and root of C Diminished 7).

Both scales above are drawn on one piano keyboard in the key of C. Notes belonging to both are drawn as a split two-color dot, so the notes they share and the notes unique to each are visible in one picture.

How the formulas differ

Scale degrees are the key-independent way to compare two scales — these stay the same in every key, and they are what actually distinguishes one scale from another.

ScaleDegrees
Diminished TriadR · b3 · b5
Diminished 7R · b3 · b5 · bb7

Notes in common

Shared notes in C, with each scale's own degree name
NoteIn Diminished TriadIn Diminished 7
CRR
Ebb3b3
Gbb5b5

Notes that differ

  • Only in the diminished 7: Bbb (bb7)

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