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Minor 7 vs Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)

The C minor 7 and the C min7♭5 (half-diminished) share 3 notes — C, Eb, Bb. From there, the C minor 7 adds G, while the C min7♭5 (half-diminished) adds Gb.

GCEA0123456789101112G5Bbb7CREbb3Gbb5G5CREbb3Gbb5G5Bbb7CRGbb5G5Bbb7CREbb3Bbb7CREbb3Gbb5G5

Ukulele, tuned low to high: G, C, E, A. 12 frets.

  • G string: fret 0 G (5), fret 3 Bb (flat 7 of C Minor 7 and flat 7 of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)), fret 5 C (root of C Minor 7 and root of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)), fret 8 Eb (flat 3 of C Minor 7 and flat 3 of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)), fret 11 Gb (flat 5), fret 12 G (5).
  • C string: fret 0 C (root of C Minor 7 and root of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)), fret 3 Eb (flat 3 of C Minor 7 and flat 3 of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)), fret 6 Gb (flat 5), fret 7 G (5), fret 10 Bb (flat 7 of C Minor 7 and flat 7 of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)), fret 12 C (root of C Minor 7 and root of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)).
  • E string: fret 2 Gb (flat 5), fret 3 G (5), fret 6 Bb (flat 7 of C Minor 7 and flat 7 of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)), fret 8 C (root of C Minor 7 and root of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)), fret 11 Eb (flat 3 of C Minor 7 and flat 3 of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)).
  • A string: fret 1 Bb (flat 7 of C Minor 7 and flat 7 of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)), fret 3 C (root of C Minor 7 and root of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)), fret 6 Eb (flat 3 of C Minor 7 and flat 3 of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)), fret 9 Gb (flat 5), fret 10 G (5).

Both scales above are drawn on one ukulele fretboard in the key of C. Notes belonging to both are drawn as a split two-color dot, so the notes they share and the notes unique to each are visible in one picture.

How the formulas differ

Scale degrees are the key-independent way to compare two scales — these stay the same in every key, and they are what actually distinguishes one scale from another.

ScaleDegrees
Minor 7R · b3 · 5 · b7
Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)R · b3 · b5 · b7

Notes in common

Shared notes in C, with each scale's own degree name
NoteIn Minor 7In Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)
CRR
Ebb3b3
Bbb7b7

Notes that differ

  • Only in the minor 7: G (5)
  • Only in the min7♭5 (half-diminished): Gb (b5)

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