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Minor 7 vs Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)

The C minor 7 and the C min7♭5 (half-diminished) share 3 notes — C, Eb, Bb. From there, the C minor 7 adds G, while the C min7♭5 (half-diminished) adds Gb.

C3C4C5CRG5CRG5CREbb3Gbb5Bbb7Ebb3Gbb5Bbb7

Piano, C3 to C5. Notes in this scale, low to high: C3 (root of C Minor 7 and root of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)), Eb3 (flat 3 of C Minor 7 and flat 3 of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)), Gb3 (flat 5), G3 (5), Bb3 (flat 7 of C Minor 7 and flat 7 of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)), C4 (root of C Minor 7 and root of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)), Eb4 (flat 3 of C Minor 7 and flat 3 of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)), Gb4 (flat 5), G4 (5), Bb4 (flat 7 of C Minor 7 and flat 7 of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)), C5 (root of C Minor 7 and root of C Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)).

Both scales above are drawn on one piano keyboard in the key of C. Notes belonging to both are drawn as a split two-color dot, so the notes they share and the notes unique to each are visible in one picture.

How the formulas differ

Scale degrees are the key-independent way to compare two scales — these stay the same in every key, and they are what actually distinguishes one scale from another.

ScaleDegrees
Minor 7R · b3 · 5 · b7
Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)R · b3 · b5 · b7

Notes in common

Shared notes in C, with each scale's own degree name
NoteIn Minor 7In Min7♭5 (Half-Diminished)
CRR
Ebb3b3
Bbb7b7

Notes that differ

  • Only in the minor 7: G (5)
  • Only in the min7♭5 (half-diminished): Gb (b5)

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